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[cheers and applause] >> gretchen: and if you would like to donate to sandy victims, there are a ton of different ways that you can help out. just head to foxandfriends.com for all of the info. >> alisyn: merry christmas, everyone, we will see you next year. [cheers and applause] >>> welcome to fox news west pointed special. i'm jon scott. coming to you from west point, new york. west point is america's oldest military posted and one of our country's most fabled universities. each year more than a thousand cadets graduate here and become officers in the united states army. tonight, we will not only explore the rich history of west pointed and get a look at living traditions but also get to enjoy the music of the arm's oldest band. west point band is one of finest musical organizations. throughout the next hour we'll hear them on the field, in the hall, and on stage as they perform for the public in their annual holiday concert. >> jon: before we get to the music, let's go to washington, d.c. for a special message from general martin dempsey. chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and
[cheers and applause] >> gretchen: and if you would like to donate to sandy victims, there are a ton of different ways that you can help out. just head to foxandfriends.com for all of the info. >> alisyn: merry christmas, everyone, we will see you next year. [cheers and applause] >>> welcome to fox news west pointed special. i'm jon scott. coming to you from west point, new york. west point is america's oldest military posted and one of our country's most fabled...
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flood warnings recovering from sandy. northeast into the new england could exceed 1 foot to as much as a foot and a half in some places. still some snow in the intermountain west, too as you go toward colorado and utah and extending to nevada and showers out along the west coast. by far and large the big storm is going out across the northeastern part of the country. tomorrow, another wave of cold moving into the northern plains, 18 to 21 degrees temperatures from billings to minneapolis and we are going to be talking about temperatures even chilling down to the 40s in atlanta tomorrow. generally 50s, 40s and some 50-degree temperatures along the eastern seaboard. that's the latest on that. harris? >> harris: nick, thank you, we will come back as the news warrants if we need to. this winter storm forcing airlines to delay or cancel thousands of flights. let's taker a look at the current situation at some east coast airports. the web site shows carriers have cancelled at least 1100 flights today alone. all of this happenin
flood warnings recovering from sandy. northeast into the new england could exceed 1 foot to as much as a foot and a half in some places. still some snow in the intermountain west, too as you go toward colorado and utah and extending to nevada and showers out along the west coast. by far and large the big storm is going out across the northeastern part of the country. tomorrow, another wave of cold moving into the northern plains, 18 to 21 degrees temperatures from billings to minneapolis and we...
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this is in the wake of the shooting at sandy hook elementary. they have all been working overtime. that shooting killed 6 women and 20 children. a number of these villain officers even went further don't napght for charities for newtown survivors. heart warming news. for a community that has seen far too much pain. pope benedict delivering a very special message of peace on this christmas day for regions torn apart by war. speaking from his balcony at the vatican st. peters square. the pope paid for an end to the bloody war in syria which has stretched on for nearly two years. >> yes. may peace spring up for the people of syria deeply counseled and divided by conflict which does not spare even the defenseless and reasons innocent victims. once again i appeal for an end to the blood shepherd. easier access for the refugees and dialogue in the pursuit of political solution to the conflict. >> jamie: activists say the fighting in syria has killed 44,000 men, women and innocent children. pope benedict also called on the israelis and palestinians to find the courage to negotiate. today
this is in the wake of the shooting at sandy hook elementary. they have all been working overtime. that shooting killed 6 women and 20 children. a number of these villain officers even went further don't napght for charities for newtown survivors. heart warming news. for a community that has seen far too much pain. pope benedict delivering a very special message of peace on this christmas day for regions torn apart by war. speaking from his balcony at the vatican st. peters square. the pope...
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super storm sandy knocked as much as 1.4% of northeast sales, 3.9 on the mid-atlantic but the fiscal cliff, consumers are taking note and this is the season for retailers. as much as 40 to 50% of sales occur in november and december. some dis counting 75% pre-christmas. >> so bad news for retailers but the weak sales could be good for consumers. >> i have been reading up on this. everybody and their mother, wal-mart, target, best buy, toys "r" us are putting on major discounts. they're better than usual. it's some kind of discounting, as much as 15% of holiday sales come in the next week. >> wow. what about online sales? it sound like they're up. >> christmas day alone online sales up 22.4%, 8% up season to season. more and more people shop on line abuse of the convenience, the ability to comparison shop. it's easier. if you don't think it's going to be up next year, i don't think what you're thinking because it grows and grows. >> and grows and grows. gerri willis, good to see you. >> thank you. >>> a live look now at the snow falling in cleveland. officials warn of whiteout conditi
super storm sandy knocked as much as 1.4% of northeast sales, 3.9 on the mid-atlantic but the fiscal cliff, consumers are taking note and this is the season for retailers. as much as 40 to 50% of sales occur in november and december. some dis counting 75% pre-christmas. >> so bad news for retailers but the weak sales could be good for consumers. >> i have been reading up on this. everybody and their mother, wal-mart, target, best buy, toys "r" us are putting on major...
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newtown, connecticut, sandy hook elementary school. of course one of the top stories but one of the saddess stories any of us have ever had to face. >> the number of mass shootings has been relatively stable over the last ten or 12 years, but this year saw a spike up. we've had seven or eight of these, they are very tragic, and the thing that we have to come to grips with in the next year is what can we really do that might make a difference, and what will we do perhaps that will just make us feel good and won't make a difference. kelly: that is the debate that is going on in the wake of what happened in newtown, connecticut, and you also look at the colorado shooting, you know, the dark night knight, and someone going in there taking advantage of the opening moments of that, and then opening fire with a semi automatic, shooting people indiscriminately in a movie theater in aurora, colorado. so there is a debate out there, isn't it. >> yes on the other hand we have stubborn facts. most guns in america are semi-automatic, and the proble
newtown, connecticut, sandy hook elementary school. of course one of the top stories but one of the saddess stories any of us have ever had to face. >> the number of mass shootings has been relatively stable over the last ten or 12 years, but this year saw a spike up. we've had seven or eight of these, they are very tragic, and the thing that we have to come to grips with in the next year is what can we really do that might make a difference, and what will we do perhaps that will just...
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indeed we saw with hurricane sandy what happens when a major piece of critical infrastructure like your electricity grid goes down for a prolonged period. and our cyber infrastructure, our cyber networks, are ripe for those types of attacks. >> reporter: janet napolitano by the way is a member of the council on foreign relations. this attack was apparently detected relatively quickly but, jon, it may underscore the vulnerability a lot of computer networks face in this country. jon: well, so the website is working and it was, as you say, it was discovered fairly early. how does it work? what did they do? what did they accomplish? >> reporter: you described this as a drive-by attack. the idea wasn't really so much to target the website so much as the people that use it. we talk about high-profile membership within the council on foreign relations. you're talking about former presidents. even current defense and intelligence officials that mavis it this site on a regular basis the idea here for hackers was to kind of get into this website and then get into the systems of people that visite
indeed we saw with hurricane sandy what happens when a major piece of critical infrastructure like your electricity grid goes down for a prolonged period. and our cyber infrastructure, our cyber networks, are ripe for those types of attacks. >> reporter: janet napolitano by the way is a member of the council on foreign relations. this attack was apparently detected relatively quickly but, jon, it may underscore the vulnerability a lot of computer networks face in this country. jon: well,...
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many still feeling the wake of super storm sandy. also those recent shootings in colorado and connecticut. because of the low sales predictions. retailers are banking on last-minute shoppers to boost their bottom lines but experts say they could be disappointed. fox business network's adam shapiro has that news. adam? >> so the holiday shopping season, when you crunch the numbers, may not prove to be as merry as some people had hoped for. first the good news, national retail federation saying they are still on track for growth of 4.1% over the last we have 586 billion-dollar holiday shopping season. according to the nrf. we won't get the final numbers until after the holidays have played out. already though, shopper track is indicating it's not going to be such a great season. here is why. shopper track says for the week and thenned december 15th, sales were down 4.3% compared to the same time last year. that is also a trend that is continuing according to shopper track. so they are revising their overall predictions for the holiday
many still feeling the wake of super storm sandy. also those recent shootings in colorado and connecticut. because of the low sales predictions. retailers are banking on last-minute shoppers to boost their bottom lines but experts say they could be disappointed. fox business network's adam shapiro has that news. adam? >> so the holiday shopping season, when you crunch the numbers, may not prove to be as merry as some people had hoped for. first the good news, national retail federation...
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this is a picture of the original request for money to recover from sandy. you can see lawmakers actually wrote by hand a request for an extra $5 million for southern states affected by hurricane isaac. they also requested an additional 400 million for areas affected by storms since 2011. the senate will vote on the bill later this week. rick? >> rick: there has been so many storms that have caused so much damage. really big storms right now that we're dealing with, winter storm warning and blizzard warnings and freezing rain warnings are currently in effect. 6 to 9 inches of snow are expected in the city. take a look at your temperatures right now across the northern plains. 22 in dallas. dallas, you got snow, major snow across areas of arkansas. energy is reporting 190,000 people still without power in arkansas from the storm. severe storms also the case, you see that line of storms moving across parts of florida now and georgia, it's going to get worse this afternoon. snow also continuing to fall and getting reports on twitter of someone saying they got 2
this is a picture of the original request for money to recover from sandy. you can see lawmakers actually wrote by hand a request for an extra $5 million for southern states affected by hurricane isaac. they also requested an additional 400 million for areas affected by storms since 2011. the senate will vote on the bill later this week. rick? >> rick: there has been so many storms that have caused so much damage. really big storms right now that we're dealing with, winter storm warning...
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youngest shooting victims there, six-year-old ben wheeler was one ever the 20 children who died at sandy hook elementary. ben's father david has written a letter and we want to share some of it, reads in part, quote, so many people have told us they can't imagine or comprehend what we've been through or where we are. david goes on to write, what do we want? for you to hug each other and your children deeply, often, and to pause, take a breath, allow the warmth of the season into your homes and hearts and know that it will be all right. we will be all right. end quote. ben wheeler was born in queens, new york and moved to newtown with his family a couple of years ago, the family says ben was a bright and spirited little boy who loved his teacher. newtown, connecticut was not the only american town victimized this month by a rampage. on december 11th, 15-year-old christina was walking through a mall in clackamas, oregon when she was shot in the chest. christina survived, two other victims did not. now, christina is home for the holidays and talking about her near death experience. kaitlin,
youngest shooting victims there, six-year-old ben wheeler was one ever the 20 children who died at sandy hook elementary. ben's father david has written a letter and we want to share some of it, reads in part, quote, so many people have told us they can't imagine or comprehend what we've been through or where we are. david goes on to write, what do we want? for you to hug each other and your children deeply, often, and to pause, take a breath, allow the warmth of the season into your homes and...
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it really is touching and moving and we put it in the context of sandy and sandy hook and all the tragedies. >> clayton: one of my favorite moments, char margolis, she wrote a book. she does this with stars and she connects with the audience for individuals who lost loved ones recently. and she doesn't know anything about them. she's immediately able to tell the loved one that has passed and she says -- she was talking to me. she knew stuff about my grandmother who passed. she named her. she was saying we're only a thought away from those we love. just a thought. when you bring up their name to you, they're right there and they hear. >> it's a loving show. i think it's the best produced christmas show year aftery. the producers here at fox friends really do an incredible job. and we're always so happy to be part of it. and you're going to really enjoy it tonight and if you don't get it tonight, watch it tomorrow. >> gretchen: 8:00 p.m. eastern tonight. tomorrow, 2:00 p.m. eastern. peter, merry christmas. >> merry christmas. >> clayton: up next, how about a little moon shine? >> give that to
it really is touching and moving and we put it in the context of sandy and sandy hook and all the tragedies. >> clayton: one of my favorite moments, char margolis, she wrote a book. she does this with stars and she connects with the audience for individuals who lost loved ones recently. and she doesn't know anything about them. she's immediately able to tell the loved one that has passed and she says -- she was talking to me. she knew stuff about my grandmother who passed. she named her....
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tragedy in newtown, connecticut a community mourning the deaths of 20 children and 6 adults murdered at sandy hook elementary school. at religious services church leaders received standing ovations from per rigs n parish. monsignor robert white who leads the parish in newtown reportedly said this has been the worst week of my life but also thanked the community for giving him strength to get through a week filled with funerals. the monsignor went on to say hearts will be broken again when that one special person didnisn there christmas morning but he urged newtown to celebrate christmas in the truest sense lie celebrating hope, healing and peace. >>> we are hearing from the family of one of the youngest shooting victims ben wheeler was one of the 20 children who died. his father david has written a letter. we want to share some of that with you now. quote, so many people have told us they can't imagine or comprehend what we've been through or where we are. david goes on to write, what do we want? for you to hug each other and your children deeply, often, and to pause, take a breath, allow the
tragedy in newtown, connecticut a community mourning the deaths of 20 children and 6 adults murdered at sandy hook elementary school. at religious services church leaders received standing ovations from per rigs n parish. monsignor robert white who leads the parish in newtown reportedly said this has been the worst week of my life but also thanked the community for giving him strength to get through a week filled with funerals. the monsignor went on to say hearts will be broken again when that...
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. >> when i heard about sandy hook, i just felt really bad for all the kids who had died. >> i wasn't surprised that he wanted to do something, i was just surprised that he followed through with it, and it made me really proud. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have six grams of sugars. with fifteen grams of protein to help manage hunger... look who's getting smart about her weight. [ male
. >> when i heard about sandy hook, i just felt really bad for all the kids who had died. >> i wasn't surprised that he wanted to do something, i was just surprised that he followed through with it, and it made me really proud. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a...
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with sandy and the newtown tragedy. they say it doesn't feel like christmas because i have gone through all of these things. imagine what christmas morning felt like for mare yejoseph it was not just perfect. it is not just family and happiness. it is about redemption . there are people sitting at home alone without family. you can live christmas better than the rest of us . people who are suffering right now and might be able to connect with god in a very, very personal intimate way better than the rest of us. the message is the same but we can live it different and better: we mentioned some people do the birthday cake and advept wreth and you have a great tradition that your father started with you. >> two things. one of the things my dad would make united states go before the mange scene and meet us in a prayer. one minute. it doesn't take long. it make it is an indel mate mark on the children and my heart . the second thing, we almost had somebody who didn't fit around the christmas table and around thanksgiving tab
with sandy and the newtown tragedy. they say it doesn't feel like christmas because i have gone through all of these things. imagine what christmas morning felt like for mare yejoseph it was not just perfect. it is not just family and happiness. it is about redemption . there are people sitting at home alone without family. you can live christmas better than the rest of us . people who are suffering right now and might be able to connect with god in a very, very personal intimate way better...
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they will meet for a vote on the $50.6 billion bill for hurricane sandy relief. they will be back in the same zip code as far as we know there are no specific time or places on the books for an inperson meaning between the two. something else that remains to be seen is everybody will return to the table with a cooler head which the president shawas hopi for before he went on his family vacation. hoe over do you. >> the fiscal cliff we have been telling you so much about could be devastating for thousands of american businesses and their workers. their new concerns this morning about profits for those companies. lauren simonetti from the fox business network joins us to explain. what's going on? >> the fiscal cliff puts it in jeopardy. many are afraid to invest in their business and hire new workers. make plans. >> no longer vetting a deal is done by new year's eve f. one comes by early january definitely a possibility. the economic impact should be minim minimal. if one comes later than that the damage to the economy is already done and you will see more talk of
they will meet for a vote on the $50.6 billion bill for hurricane sandy relief. they will be back in the same zip code as far as we know there are no specific time or places on the books for an inperson meaning between the two. something else that remains to be seen is everybody will return to the table with a cooler head which the president shawas hopi for before he went on his family vacation. hoe over do you. >> the fiscal cliff we have been telling you so much about could be...
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gregg: dawn hochsprung, the principal of sandy hook elementary school. and mary sherlach were among the six adults shot and killed in that terrible massacre. heather: in other news, we are hearing warnings this morning that the u.s. economy is about to take a hit that it can hardly afford. after going on strike out west, remember that? dock workers, they are gearing up to do it on the east and gulf coast by the end of the week. now the work stoppage threatens vital shipments and is predicted to show up from our factories to our storefronts. dennis kneale from the fox business network joins me with more on this dennis, we're talking about a strike on this time that would number in the thousands and massachusetts all, close the way to texas. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, heather. you're talking 14 ports along the east and gulf coasts. shipments of retail goods, food, components used in manufacturing. the international longshoreman's union will continue to deliver certain other kinds of things like military cargo, some perishables and some mail but no co
gregg: dawn hochsprung, the principal of sandy hook elementary school. and mary sherlach were among the six adults shot and killed in that terrible massacre. heather: in other news, we are hearing warnings this morning that the u.s. economy is about to take a hit that it can hardly afford. after going on strike out west, remember that? dock workers, they are gearing up to do it on the east and gulf coast by the end of the week. now the work stoppage threatens vital shipments and is predicted to...
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it is how the fifth grader wanted to spend his christmas. >> when i heard about sandy hook i felt really bad for all the kids who had died. >> reporter: cooper, coming all the way from houston, texas, did not want to show up empty-handed so he persuaded his principal to let the entire school make all of these cards, filled with prayers and poems. >> i want surprised he wanted to do something. i was just surprised he followed through with it and it made me really proud. >> all the children in the school wrote cards, original drawings and cooper said that he would deliver them up here. >> reporter: a promise cooper kept this christmas day. the 10-year-old shared part of one particularly poignant poem written for children of newtown. >> they are filled with joy, didn't know what to say, they remembered nothing what happened earlier that day. where are we asked the little girl as quiet as a mouse? this is heaven declare ad small boy. we're spending christmas at god's house. >> reporter: cooper himself giving credence to the sign hanging at st. rose of lima church. >> i think the whole world
it is how the fifth grader wanted to spend his christmas. >> when i heard about sandy hook i felt really bad for all the kids who had died. >> reporter: cooper, coming all the way from houston, texas, did not want to show up empty-handed so he persuaded his principal to let the entire school make all of these cards, filled with prayers and poems. >> i want surprised he wanted to do something. i was just surprised he followed through with it and it made me really proud....
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. >> my people of the year is new york and new jersey and conduct during hurricane sandy. half of them without power, subways, no gas, scenes looked like out of the dresden fire bombing. civilization didn't fall away. there was no crime or violence and things will be look better not morning. it's a testament to resilience and grace under pressure. >> paul: my piss mis go to john roberts for his ruling that the affordable care act is constitutional. he agreed with the four conservatives that the law violated the commerce clause of the constitution which was the
. >> my people of the year is new york and new jersey and conduct during hurricane sandy. half of them without power, subways, no gas, scenes looked like out of the dresden fire bombing. civilization didn't fall away. there was no crime or violence and things will be look better not morning. it's a testament to resilience and grace under pressure. >> paul: my piss mis go to john roberts for his ruling that the affordable care act is constitutional. he agreed with the four...
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jon: didn't this same area get hit pretty hard by sandy a few months ago? they must have have a lot work to do? misery on top of more misery. >> reporter: you're absolutely right about that. governor andrew cuomo is warning power companies to be on their toes because of this they were criticized with the slow response to get the power cut back on. many residents in the dark and the told for a couple of weeks. the governor activated his emergency operations center in the state of new york as the upper portions of the state were expected to get a whole lot of snow but for the kids at home, i will mess up my goldloves here. they're not making the best snowballs. jon: really? i thought it was, she has a good arm. >> reporter: i think i sprayed my photographer in the face a little bit with my fancy new gloves. jon: is that hat, a fox news issued hat? that is proper equipment for this weather. >> reporter: called, keeping you warm. jon: should have told the assignment desk you wanted to go to miami. >> reporter: next time yeah. pack up a bikini instead after tobo
jon: didn't this same area get hit pretty hard by sandy a few months ago? they must have have a lot work to do? misery on top of more misery. >> reporter: you're absolutely right about that. governor andrew cuomo is warning power companies to be on their toes because of this they were criticized with the slow response to get the power cut back on. many residents in the dark and the told for a couple of weeks. the governor activated his emergency operations center in the state of new york...
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., something they were putting in place on the heels of what took place at sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut. they wanted to do something, the mayor of that town said we will spare no expense, we must take care of our children and why they're putting armed guards in all of their schools, getting back to what the n.r.a. said, the n.r.a. wayne laperriere said the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a good guy with a began and began a lot of talk and controversy out there, and how we should be responding. >> alisyn: it's part of the national dialog, whether that is the best deterrent or other ways to handle it. the mayor marlboro is a town i knew where, monmouth counties where i grew up. it's one of the pretty s and you can't believe there'd be an armed guard, but in this day and age the mayor said we've made a collective decision as a town we need armed security in each of our schools, with this new evil you can't sit there and hope it it doesn't happen in our town, you must protect our kids. and this is the raging debate whether it will protect the kids. t
., something they were putting in place on the heels of what took place at sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut. they wanted to do something, the mayor of that town said we will spare no expense, we must take care of our children and why they're putting armed guards in all of their schools, getting back to what the n.r.a. said, the n.r.a. wayne laperriere said the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a good guy with a began and began a lot of talk and controversy out...
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have been seized, and there's an extraordinary arrogance, she tweets that the victims of hurricane sandy should stop projecting negativity. >> juliet: she's very dopey, really, she's gotten out of control. >> it's more serious than that, it's more serious, she needs to say, i surrender, i need help, i can't do it on my own and then she needs to give her family the same program, but the only way for addiction-- >> her family is a mess and have been for years. >> addiction-- >> and next year on this list, too. >> you're right, five years out of six and can i say to treat addiction, you have to treat the whole family. >> clayton: good luck with that family. >> juliet: thanks, patrick. >> clayton: they need it. thank you for being here shall appreciate you joining us. >> juliet: we woke him up early, but he's in miami. >> clayton: exhandle it. >> juliet: coming up an npr host compares republicans to terrorists, the proof is in the tweet. we're going to show you next. >> clayton: and then spider-man under arrest? and best, by best, we mean the worst mug shot of the year. that looks kind of aw
have been seized, and there's an extraordinary arrogance, she tweets that the victims of hurricane sandy should stop projecting negativity. >> juliet: she's very dopey, really, she's gotten out of control. >> it's more serious than that, it's more serious, she needs to say, i surrender, i need help, i can't do it on my own and then she needs to give her family the same program, but the only way for addiction-- >> her family is a mess and have been for years. >>...
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one homeowner picked what she could salvage from sandy in a container. she sadly discovered it flooded. >> i don't know what to do about that. i'll have to -- first of all, get it out and get it someplace and dry it out. >> juliet: i drove down there three weeks ago, i could not believe what i saw. about 150 out of the 300 people who live there stayed. so now a lot of people have to come back and check to see if there is more storm damage. such a nightmare. >>> talk about an offensive play. former tackle brown on the left admitting intention a.m.ly missed a black so his own team's qb would get hurt. brown said he was upset scott mitchell was playing poorly in 1994. brown says now he completely regrets it. mitchell says this revelation is painful. >> kelly: painful indeed, his own teammate. >> juliet: yeah. >> kelly: talk about friendly fire. >> juliet: yeah, really. >> kelly: secretary of state hillary clinton finally expected to return to work next week. she spent the last three weeks recovering from a stomach virus and concussion that forced her to mis
one homeowner picked what she could salvage from sandy in a container. she sadly discovered it flooded. >> i don't know what to do about that. i'll have to -- first of all, get it out and get it someplace and dry it out. >> juliet: i drove down there three weeks ago, i could not believe what i saw. about 150 out of the 300 people who live there stayed. so now a lot of people have to come back and check to see if there is more storm damage. such a nightmare. >>> talk about...